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From:
Mike Freeman <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
Blind-Hams For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:20:23 -0400
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Talk about talking to oneself?  One would have less of a conversation
than if one called CQ on 160 during the day!

Mike Freeman < K 7 U I J >

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Steve wrote:

> Yeah, it looked from the message that the Blind-hams list attempted to
> subscribe to another list at the St.Johns listserv.
>
> That's one of the most uncanny messages I've run across in awhilee.
>
> Laughing while looking at suspicious e-mail headers,
>
> Steve
> K8sp
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Freeman" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Your message to [log in to unmask]
>
>
> Looks like someone with a virus was able to send to the Blind-hams list!
>
> Mike Freeman < K 7 U I J >
>
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, L-Soft list server at St. John's University (1.8d)
> wrote:
>
> > Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:14:23
> >
> > Your message to [log in to unmask] has been forwarded to
> > the "list owners"  (the people who manage the OZMAD  list). If you wanted
> > to reach a human being, you used the correct procedure and you can ignore
> > the remainder of this  message. If you were trying to  send a command for
> > the computer to execute, please read on.
> >
> > The OZMAD list is managed by  a LISTSERV server. LISTSERV commands should
> > always     be     sent     to      the     "LISTSERV"     address,     ie
> > [log in to unmask] LISTSERV never  tries to process messages
> > sent to  the OZMAD-request address;  it simply  forwards them to  a human
> > being, and acknowledges receipt with the present message.
> >
> > The "listname-request" convention originated on  the Internet a long time
> > ago. At  the time, lists were  always managed manually, and  this address
> > was defined as an alias for the  person(s) in charge of the mailing list.
> > You would write to the  "listname-request" address to ask for information
> > about the list, ask  to be added to the list,  make suggestions about the
> > contents and policy, etc. Because this  address was always a human being,
> > people  knew and  expected to  be  talking to  a  human being,  not to  a
> > computer.  Unfortunately, some  recent  list  management packages  screen
> > incoming  messages  to  the  "listname-request" address  and  attempt  to
> > determine whether they are requests to  join or leave the list. They look
> > for words such as "subscribe," "add,"  "leave," "off," and so on. If they
> > decide your message is  a request to join or leave  the list, they update
> > the list automatically;  otherwise, they forward the message  to the list
> > owners. Naturally, this means that if  you write to the list owners about
> > someone else's  unsuccessful attempts to  leave the list, you  stand good
> > chances of  being automatically removed  from the list, whereas  the list
> > owners will never receive your message. No one really benefits from this.
> > There is no  reliable mechanism to contact a human  being for assistance,
> > and you can never  be sure whether your request will  be interpreted as a
> > command or as a message to the list owners. This is why LISTSERV uses two
> > separate addresses, one for the people in  charge of the list and one for
> > the computer  that runs it.  This way you  always know what  will happen,
> > especially if you are writing in a language other than English.
> >
> > In  any case,  if your  message was  a LISTSERV  command, you  should now
> > resend it  to [log in to unmask]  The list owners  know that
> > you have  received this message and  may assume that you  will resend the
> > command  on your  own. You  will find  instructions for  the most  common
> > administrative requests below.
> >
> > *********************
> > * TO LEAVE THE LIST *
> > *********************
> >
> > Write to [log in to unmask] and, in  the text of your message
> > (not the subject line), write: SIGNOFF OZMAD
> >
> > ********************
> > * TO JOIN THE LIST *
> > ********************
> >
> > Write to [log in to unmask] and, in  the text of your message
> > (not the subject line), write: SUBSCRIBE OZMAD
> >
> > ************************
> > * FOR MORE INFORMATION *
> > ************************
> >
> > Write to [log in to unmask] and, in  the text of your message
> > (not the  subject line),  write: "HELP" or  "INFO" (without  the quotes).
> > HELP will give you a short help  message and INFO a list of the documents
> > you can order.
> >
>

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