Good afternoon,
While the rational may be legitimate, it is not a valid argument for a
publicly funded program, and it may also not be valid for long. As I
have learned in my life as a technology geek you never know what the
next twist of technology will make accessible that was not accessible
before. It may be necessary to provide the student with a tactile
supplement to the images, but given the quality of the tactile images we
can currently produce it can really cut down on the need for verbiage to
convey the required information. We can also do things we sound that we
could never do before, directional audio from seven different sources
can provide an amazing amount of information.
I have had similar discussions with some of our faculty, and at times
like this often the problem needs to be elevated to a higher level of
discussion to be resolved. I am yet to find any web based content, I am
sure there is some, that can not be adequately conveyed in non-visual
means. It just takes some work, sometimes a lot of work. We are
currently working on a an optical physics text for a student, and while
it has been a tremendous challenge even the most visual of content we
have been able to explain working in cooperation with the faculty from
the physics department.
Ron Stewart
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I'd agree with him: "I think some domains of operation in life may just
fall outside the capabilities of some disabilities -- an example would
be driving a car or flying a plane." but disagree strongly that web
content is one of those "domains of operation in life [that] may just
fall outside the capabilities of some disabilities". For discriptions of
graphics he should write down what he would say to someone if he needed
to provide a description of the graphic images by phone."
Sheryl
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Debra Wright wrote:
> The best approach I've used and seen have an impact is to have the
> faculty actually use a screen reader program to access a page or pages
> with graphics not tagged, links not well done, etc....
>
> It has often done the trick at my end.
>
> D. Wright
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: * EASI: Equal Access to Software & Information
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> Sent: 6/22/04 11:55 PM
> Subject: Fw: Fw: Announcement: article on online accessibility
inthe
> Chronicle of Higher Educa
>
> This response is from someone who is very involved in on-line learning
> at our college. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how I can respond
> to this in a meaningful way that will help this instructor learn about
> the value of accessibility? Please do not respond to him yourselves.
> I just want some idea of how I might approach this.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Walter Behnke <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> ; Norm Dooley
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Announcement: article on online accessibility inthe
> Chronicle of Higher Educa
>
> Thanks, Betty
> I am following some of these articles as they appear.
> In the Dreamweaver workshops, I emphasize design with accessibility in
> mind.
>
> The VCC Learns site contains a huge volume of graphics files that are
> annotated illustrations of complex steps in computing tasks -- not
> exactly something for which alternate text would do justice. That site
> and similar situations that contain graphics to illustrate processes
> rather than static images, are difficult to translate into
> accessibility sites. I hope you understand. I think some domains of
> operation in life may just fall outside the capabilities of some
> disabilities -- an example would be driving a car or flying a plane.
>
> Thanks for keeping the issues in front of us.
> WWB
>
> Walter Behnke VCC-KEC (604) 871-7284
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> VCC Learns http://vcclearns.vcc.ca
> <http://vcclearns.vcc.ca>
> Comp Studies Website: http://upgrading.vcc.ca/st63-wwb/
> <http://upgrading.vcc.ca/st63-wwb/>
>
> >>> "Betty Nobel" <[log in to unmask]> 6/21/2004 10:17:07 AM >>>
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> You may be interested in the article mentioned below.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Schmetzke, Axel" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 7:33 AM
> Subject: Announcement: article on online accessibility in the
> Chronicle of Higher Education (June 11, 2004)
>
>
> Here is a recent article on online accessibility (entitled "Left Out
> Online") by Chronicle of Higher Education staff writer Scott Carlson:
>
> http://chronicle.com/free/v50/i40/40a02301.htm.
> <http://chronicle.com/free/v50/i40/40a02301.htm.>
>
> Citation of print article: Chronicle of Higher Education, Vol. 50, No.
> 40, June 11, 2004: pp. A23-A25.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Axel Schmetzke
> Library
> University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point
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