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Lots to comment upon here and so many questions to ask!

1. Acid/alkaline - for Robb

Robb says:

> if I do not add huge quantities
> of olive oil to most meals it is
> fairly easy for me to reach
> a net alkaline state …

What do you mean by ‘huge’?  I add about 30ml to a salad and regard that
as moderate.  60ml I would regard as large and anything over 100ml
as ‘huge’ for a single meal.  Are we on the same wavelength?

How does olive oil affect pH balance?  I understand fat is basically
neutral with respect to insulin (see 2 below), except that it dilutes the
glucose load.  But I did not know it could affect pH load.

How do you know you are at a ‘net alkaline state’?  I think we are talking
about the pH balance in the kidneys, at the end of the digestion process
and after, therefore, the addition of significant digestive acids into the
digesting food, a process which must reduce the alkalinity of the food as
taken in.  Seems to me that a pH around 7 of a meal would be lowered (that
is, more acid) by the time the eaten foods (liquids) reached the kidneys.

I would like to add to my spreadsheet (which calculates for me the
macronutrient ratios for ingredients, meals or a day’s or month’s intake)
some algorithm to come up with a pH measure.  Do you have some data or
formulae which would help me do this?   How would I do this?  Perhaps it
would be very rough as I imagine you’d be looking at some sort of rolling
average over the time that a particular meal was exerting its influence on
the kidneys.

2.  Insulin – for Robert Krikorian

Robert says:

> … consider the very large insulin hit
> that comes with high calorie meals …

As I understand it, it is the carbohydrates which stimulate insulin
production (from the pancreas).  From recent discussion on the Paleofood
site I glean that purines (like uric acid, caffeine, xanthine, guanine,
adenine), found in red meat (and which it is recommended that gout
sufferers avoid) can also stimulate insulin production.  Even considering
these two qualifications, I’m not aware of any link between high calorie
meals - how high? – and insulin production

3.  Fat loss – for Brad

Good luck with the fat loss.  My wife has recently lost 30kg – say 70 lb –
on the Eades diet plus exercise (primarily aerobic, but more recently
using weights).  (She’s too stubborn to follow my Paleo lead!).  The Eades
diet is low carb and is a soft, very soft, urban, consumerist, version of
the Paleo Diet.  But it is working for her and the fat is staying off.

Keith

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