In a message dated 10/11/02 8:51:32 AM, [log in to unmask] writes:

>Okay, now about this......  Adrienne brought up a good question....  How
>do
>we know if the loss on the scales is owing to DIT or ketosis?  What does
>Blumberg say on this?  It's difficult to stay out of ketosis when trying
>to
>keep carbs low because of high fat and what about muscle wasting because
>of
>low protein.???   Lots of questions coming up here.  Where can I get the
>book?

Firstly, Blumberg's book is not a diet book -- It's called "Body Heat -
Temperature and Life on Earth" .  He talks about DIT being triggered by a
high fat/low protein diet; specifically how DIT via BAT appears to be not
only a "non-shivering" system to generate heat, but to waste calories.  I
reasoned that the high protein diet I (and probably most of us) had been
eating may inadvertently have been squelching any DIT via BAT. That taken
together with my remembering Atkin's admonition not to do too high
protein/low fat version of his diet (these ratios are relative of course)
made me realize that a proportionally higher fat/lower protein diet might
trigger weight loss.  Thus, the experiment to give low protein/high fat a try
was launched.  I haven't concerned myself so far with the issue of muscle
wasting -- probably will if I decide to stay on any length of time.
Re: DIT or ketosis -- I don't think they're at odds with each other. DIT via
BAT would mean the burning of fat and ketosis would simply be a confirmation
that fat (without carbohydrates) was being burned. The fact that on the
higher protein diet I either didn't achieve ketosis or only slightly might
mean that for me protein was being metabolized similarly to carbohydrates --
gluconeogenesis instead of fat burning for energy.

Namaste, Liz
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