And a large percentage of them were Jews.

Kat

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> and stalin killed about 17 million people.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kathy Salkin
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: 10/10/2002 3:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Question
>
> Not against all things German, just against those directly related to
> the
> extermination of the Jews. Which was nearly everything manufactured in
> Germany
> during the Nazi regime, unfortunately, and even some product
> manufactured
> outside of Germany.
>
> But you're right, it was far better to rebuild Germany from the ashes
> and not
> allow the pre-war economic conditions to reoccur to make way for another
> dictator.  If you will recall, the Armistice ending WWI left Germany so
> badly
> economically crippled, it paved the way for the superinflation that
> devalued
> the mark so steeply, thus creating a deep resentment on the part of the
> Germans to allow Hitler and the Nazis to come to power.  And so the
> Marshall
> Plan was a kinder, better plan than the one hammered out in Versailles
> in
> 1918.
>
> Yet we also need to remember that over 6 million Jews were in the camps,
> and
> entire villages and towns were wiped out.  This is something we can
> never
> forget.  Auschwitz is still there, a grim memorial of something that
> must
> never happen again, even in the name of nationalism.  This is why many
> Jews
> cannot even stand to buy products associated with the Nazis.  It's a
> grim
> reminder of a past we cannot forget.
>
> Kat
>
> On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:45:12 -0400 "Cleveland, Kyle E."
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > What purpose would it have served not to buy
> > the car, though, Kat?
> > Certainly didn't help Hitler, and it helped
> > rebuild the German economy to
> > the point where there would be no impoverished
> > Germans willing to listen to
> > an Austrian paper-hanger say, "blame the Jews
> > for your troubles."
> >
> > The combination of Germanic genius and the
> > Marshall Plan is what
> > re-established stability in post-war West
> > Europe.  Without massive exports
> > of Volkswagens, who's to say that another
> > fascist wouldn't have put a
> > humiliated Germany back in the same place?
> > After WWI, the Allies humiliated
> > and bound Germany so much that the people were
> > living in incredible poverty.
> >
> > I think I said something on the list about
> > dissecting the aftermath of
> > Hurricane Andrew in South Florida.  Because
> > then-governor Lawton Chiles
> > refused to ask for Federal assistance, some
> > people in Homestead were
> > suffering from severe dehydration and hunger.
> > The very fabric of society
> > was unravelling in a matter of a couple days.
> > People were willing to shoot
> > other people just to get potable water.
> >
> > Now, magnify that scenario by 60 million people
> > and ten years--you can see
> > how people would want to blame "someone".  In
> > essence, we left Germany to
> > rot after the war, and purposely ham-strung its
> > economy.  Hitler and company
> > blamed the Jews, but the finger should have
> > been pointed directly at the
> > Allies.  After WWII, Truman and Churchill had
> > learned their lesson.
> >
> > Now the Germans have the luxury of electing an
> > idiot like Schroeder (tongue
> > planted firmly in-cheek).
> >
> > -Kyle
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kathy Salkin
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 2:12 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Question
> >
> >
> > I'd no idea until today that Hitler'd had any
> > role in the development of the
> > Volkswagen Beetle.  Not sure I'd have bought my
> > car if I'd known at the
> > time.
> >
> > Kat
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:57:08 -0400 Meir Weiss
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Volkes as in folks/ nation
> > >
> > > Wagon/  car
> > >
> > > My father may he r.i.peace
> > >
> > > Was a child  holocaust survivor (orphan)
> > >
> > > For his whole life he refused to buy german
> > > products
> > >
> > > ESP volkeswagon-bmw (bavaria
> > >
> > > Mercedes benz
> > >
> > > All those
> > >
> > > Just fyi  :)
> >