Well, well....  Brownstone again, eh?  I would like to point to a 1982
project in New Haven (where else) at the Palladium building on Orange
Street.  Stone replacement with Portland was not possible as Meahan had
not reopened his quarry at this time.  Edison Coatings patching and
coloring products were used.  In fact 16,000 pounds of patching material
(System 45, color #701).  Molds were made for the decorative detailing
including quoins, sills, brackets and cornices.  The only failures in
the twentyone years since the project are where the substrate failed,
and these only show up in areas where the patching product was applied
as a thin parge (under 1/4 inch).  The architect at the time was David
Yeager and this was a bold move at the time.  Needless to say, it is one
of the finest façade restorations of its kind I have seen to date.  I
have worked extensively with other patching products, and for Portland
Brownstone I would say Mike's product is by far the best.
Leland

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I'd like to see the examples of success in patching Brownstone.  And I
suppose I'd like to understand the tipping point in terms of
cost-benefit.

At some point all exterior materials are sacrificial.  We would like to
think of stone as lasting for centuries, but perhaps Brownstone is not
such a stone.  Perhaps it is on a cycle similar to wood siding.  Is that
so bad?

However, you should share your examples with the nice folks working on
the Morse-Libby House.

-jc

ps. I am reminded of an architect who suggested that we do a building
what he suggested folks in Japan do...rebuild it every century or so.
Its a slippery slope I'm perched on.

-still jc

On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 08:34  AM, edison wrote:

> Agree with the patching brownstone by stucco method comment, disagree 
> that patching in general is ineffective. There are brownstone patching
> projects
> with up to two decades of service that speak to the viability of this
> approach.
>
> Edison Coatings, Inc.
> M. P. Edison
> President
> 3 Northwest Drive
> Plainville, CT 06062
> Phone: (860) 747-2220 or (800)697-8055
> Fax: (860)747-2280 or (800) 697-8044
> Internet: www.edisoncoatings.com
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> Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:25:57 EDT
> Subject: Re: over easy
>
>> Brownstone is a (generally) dark red/brown sandstone.
>
>> Patching it (with stucco)
>> isn't worth a damn, and replacing it is virtually unaffordable, even 
>> if you could find a good match for color and texture.  So basically, 
>> you're screwed.
>>
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