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This doesn't suprise me. Disease comes about from a misutilization of
resources. That means too much oxygen then what is optimal or too little
will have effects. As well as when it comes to other chemicals, water and
food supply. I the wild these resources are NOT always optimal either.
And it is the restriction and giving of these resources that God uses to
keept the balance that he wishes to keep, destroying some, promoting
others or limiting all. Disease in my opinion comes about from the
misutilization of natural resources which degrades the body(or mind) in
some way and makes way for your demise. So if heart disease occurs in
animals in the wild this is okay. In trying to learn how we can live more
in accord with how we were built(anything not naturally occurring will
have definite negative affects as opposed to the natural which is more
harmonious with the way our natural bodies do things) we also need to
take these examples into mind. Which in my mind are part of God's giving
us knowledge on how nature works so that we can
truly better our situations and prosper more. Nature is perfect, it has
its own system. But when we intend to prosper within her system we need
to learn how she works better. Why? Because in truth we cannot escape
her. We come from her, we are apart of her.
But we can try to learn how to gain an upper hand and manipulate nature's
balancing acts for our own prosperity. But this takes more intelligence,
prudence and discernment than what western "science" offers us. True
prosperity in my mind is not what drives science or our society, it is
the pursuit, the obsession, of money, liberty and happiness and these don't
always coincide with prosperity. True prosperity is the utilizatin of
liberty, the liberty to become a devotee for wholistic betterment.
Discipline is the restriction of one's liberty by one's self. Happiness
should also come along with prudence. IT should be prudent happiness that
we are concerned about. One can be happy as one destroys himself. And
money or wealth should be the means to an end. Not the end.

Godbless,
Anwar


 Thomas E. Billings wrote:
>
> some time ago there was a discussion here re: signs of heart
> disease in chimps. A reference that discusses signs of heart
> disease in primates, both wild and captive, is:
>
> pp. 218-226 of
> "Feeding and Nutrition of Nonhuman Primates"
> by Robert S. Harris
> 1970, Academic Press.
>
> Heart disease has been found in *wild* New World primates. Most of the
> research on chimps is on captive (zoo) specimens. Early studies
> on chimps (done prior to 1950) found no signs of heart disease
> in chimps; later studies found some evidence of heart disease.
> A 1958 study, Ratcliffe and Cronin, reports finding arteriosclerosis
> in 14.5% of Pongidae family {gibbons, orangs, chimps} primates
> in zoos. Other studies are cited that found evidence of heart
> disease in chimps, but most such work is done on captive
> chimps, not wild ones.
>
> As always, I encourage you to locate the reference cited and read the
> material in full for yourself.
>
> Tom Billings
>

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