my answer to the obsolesence issue is the name of this list.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denis Anson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: Frams on Websides and Screen Readers
In addition, the web usability studies (for able-bodied folks, or photon
dependent to you) also say that frames make the web harder to use, and
particularly difficult when you are trying to return to a location in a
frame set, since the bookmark is just for the frame set itself. In a
large site, that can be almost as bad as no clue at all where you are.
In general, frames are considered to be bad web design, independent of
accessibility issues. They do help web designers, but annoy a lot of
users.
One additional issue that Adrian's comments bring up: to what extent
should web designers continue to design for obsolete technology, when
there are very good reasons, in some cases, to move forward?
Denis Anson, MS, OTR
Computer Access Specialist
College Misericordia
301 Lake St.
Dallas, PA 18612
email: [log in to unmask]
Phone: 570-674-6413
> -----Original Message-----
> From: * EASI: Equal Access to Software & Information
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adrian Higginbotham
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 9:51 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Frams on Websides and Screen Readers
>
> Hi Petra
> the no frames guideline came about because earlier versions of screen
> readers including jaws didn't cope at all well with frames and I think
> it's
> a safe bet that there's still lots of people out there using this old
> technology particularly people who have purchased software with grants
for
> education and the like and now can't aford to upgrade to latest
versions
> themselves.
>
> Adrian Higginbotham.
> ODL (Open Distance Learning)
> Email: [log in to unmask]
> tel: 01612952555
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Petra Ritter" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:35 PM
> Subject: Frams on Websides and Screen Readers
>
>
> Hello,
>
> In documants about web accessebility I comme offten across the advice
> not to use frame in Websides.
> I am a JAWS user mayself and I prefore to have frame on a webside
> because their help me to navigate the side.
> Are there still Screen Readers whitch cand handle Frames in use by
blind
> people or what is the reason for advising not to use frames on a
webside
>
> Best regards
>
> Petra Ritter
>
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