Thanks everyone, It turns out that the 8 beeps on the Phoenix Bios did indicate a bad graphics card. I replaced the cards and the machine is running just fine. Thanks Fran for those sites, I know they'll come in handy in the future. For anyone interested here they go. IBM and AMI and Phoenix http://www.spurdens.freeserve.co.uk/pc/postbeeps.htm Award - Also includes screen error messages http://www.phoenix.com/pcuser/awardbios/award_error_codes.html PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml