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marvin hunkin <[log in to unmask]>
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From: "Daniel Longstaff" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "marvin hunkin" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: RE: Re: [WSG] Accessible Photoshop and flash
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 11:03:13 +0930

Hi Marvin

I'm not quite sure if you understand what will be required in these
subjects. Photoshop and Flash are only the tools being used in these
subjects. The actual assessment is creating and manipulating visual
objects.  For example:

1. In 4MDI you need to be able to capture a number of photographic
images using a digital camera, then use photoshop to manipulate these
images. This involves brightness, contrast, cropping, colour depth,
quality, compression, editting the photo etc. It also involves you be
able to create a images and buttons that can be used in websites.

2. In 4M2D you need to create 2D animations using Flash. Once again this
is all visual and requires little coding. The advanced subject involves
action script.

Regards
Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: marvin hunkin [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, 30 May 2007 10:36 AM
To: Daniel Longstaff
Subject: FW: Re: [WSG] Accessible Photoshop and flash




From: Robert O'Rourke <[log in to unmask]>
To: marvin hunkin <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessible Photoshop and flash
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:13:50 +0100

marvin hunkin wrote:
 >Hi.
 >doing certificate iv in web site development at my local college.
 >now for second semester, will be using photo shop, to manipulate 2 and
 >3 d objects.
 >now, is there any way to do this accessibly with jaws?
 >also, need to use flash, to create 2 and 3 d buttons, objects, etc.
 >is there an accessible way to code this?
 >let me know asap.
 >cheers Marvin.
 >
 >

Hi Marvin,
     Firstly with regards to using photoshop it has nothing to do with
website accessibility in terms of jaws unless you are putting the
website text into the image which is bad practice for larger blocks of
text. Any text contained in images needs to be in the HTML or in the alt
attribute of <img> tags. Basically what a lot of people doing web design
do these days is design their site in photoshop including the text, the
backgrounds, any icons etc... and then slice that image up in such a way
that they can recreate the design by using css. So long as you maintain
the separation between the content (all text and images) and the design
(the visual representation on screen e.g. background colours, fonts
etc...) then your site should be accessible.

     Flash is currently not accessible to Jaws or any screen readers
although there are methods for only sending it to the people who can use
it. Using flash for buttons is a nice way to create animations however
it is now an old practice. It's better to use animated gifs as link
backgrounds so you can change them via css when you hover over a link.
Saying that you should do what you have to for your course (learning
flash is useful) but ask your tutor about accessibility and the use of
flash so you know what to consider when using it.

     Rob
Hi Daniel.
could you please read this and pass it on to lowan and the other members
of your team.
got some responses from some of the blind mailling lists, regarding web
accessability, photoshop and flash.
cheers Marvin.

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Hi.
can these subjects be done using Jaws?
cheers Marvin.

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