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Loretta Guarino Reid <[log in to unmask]>
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* EASI: Equal Access to Software & Information
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Richard.
  I'd encourage you to look at the file "How to Create Accessible Adobe PDF
Files", available from the web site http://access.adobe.com/booklet.html
It discussed various paths and tools for creating accessible PDF or
transforming existing PDF files into TaggedPDF. We hope authors only need to
do the type of manual tagging that you describe the fix up minor problems in
the output of the MakeAccessible command.
  The size increase in the TaggedPDF file will depend on the amount of
structure in the document. A single page containing only at table may see a
large relative growth; a multiple page document of text paragraphs may see
small relative growth.

        Loretta Guarino Reid
        Adobe Acrobat

> I thought you might be interested in this reply from  Adobe on  their new
> 5.0 software.  The process of creating a new version of an existing PDF file
> is daunting.  You must create a tag by defining the type of tag and entering
> text to be read, then you must attach the tag at the point where the element
> exists in the inaccessible PDF file.  The tags are used by the Reader and
> the screen readers (JAWS) to organize the text and give appropriate
> information about headings, etc..as the file is read.
> Has anyone got information on the size of an accessible 5.0 PDF file as
> opposed to the original file and the original PDF file?
>
>
> Richard R. Jones
> Assistant Director
> Disability Resources for Students
> Arizona State University
> (480) 965-6045
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alyssa Robinson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:45 PM
> To: Richard Jones
> Cc: Access-B
> Subject: RE: Adobe 5.0 and the Reader
>
>
>
> I'll try to address your questions directly:
>
> 1. Can Jaws only read a document on with Adobe 5.0?  and
>
> 2. Can JAWS read a Reader 5.0 file, say the file mentioned in the QuickTime
> presentation  in question 5 or can it only be read in Acrobat 5.0?
>
>  Both Acrobat 5.0 and Acrobat Reader 5.0 are natively compatible with screen
> readers such as JAWS, and no plugin is necessary for text-to-speech. The
> file should start reading automatically when opened. However, you will want
> to contact Freedom Scientific (the makers of JAWS), to find out if your
> specific version of JAWS is compatible with Acrobat 5.0 or Acrobat Reader
> 5.0. Another thing to keep in mind is that the PDF file must have been
> created with Accessibility in mind, in order to be readable with a screen
> reader. If it has not been designed with Accessibility in mind, the creator
> of the PDF file can use Acrobat 5.0 (the full product) and the Make
> Accessible plugin in order to make the PDF file more accessible. This link :
> <http://access.adobe.com/booklet.html> has more information on creating
> Accessible PDF files.
>
> 3. Do you get more accessibility features  in Acrobat 5.0 than the free
> Reader 5.0?  and
> 4. Are there any differences in how Acrobat 5.0 handles the accessibility of
> a pdf file and the way the Reader 5.0 handles the document?
>
> The Additional accesibility features in Acrobat 5.0 relate to creating
> accessible PDF files. This includes the ability to create Tagged PDF files
> and the ability to add ALT tags for images. When it comes to reading
> Accessible PDF files, the performance of Reader 5.0 and Acrobat 5.0 is the
> same.
>
> 5. You use the QuickTime files in your  accessibility training at
> <http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/solutionsacc.html>
> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/solutionsacc.html.  The image in the
> QuickTime file is of a document with the name  "Synchros" in the heading.
> The page has text, a pie chard, and a table.   How many bytes does
> accessibility add to this pdf file as opposed to a 4.***  pdf file?
>
> 6. Generally, how many bytes does Adobe 5.0 accessibility add to pdf file?
>
> A PDF file which has been tagged for accessibility is definately larger than
> the same file without the tagging. I don't know of an accurate way to
> measure just how much larger. This could vary widely from file to file. I do
> not have access to the original document on which the Synchros PDF file was
> made, so I cannot tell for certain what the size difference would be between
> a tagged and untagged version of that file.
>
>
> --Boundary_(ID_BWMLSa/mDMN5UNSFlMtjZw)
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=210090316-26042001>I
> thought you might be interested in this reply from&nbsp; Adobe on&nbsp; their
> new 5.0 software.&nbsp; The process of creating a new version of an existing PDF
> file is daunting.&nbsp; You must create a tag by defining&nbsp;the type&nbsp;of
> tag&nbsp;and entering text to be read, then you must attach the tag at the point
> where the element exists&nbsp;in the inaccessible PDF file.&nbsp; The tags are
> used by the Reader and the screen readers (JAWS)&nbsp;to organize the text and
> give appropriate information about headings, etc..as the file is
> read.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=210090316-26042001>Has
> anyone&nbsp;got information on the size of an accessible 5.0 PDF file as opposed
> to the original file and the original PDF file?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Richard R. Jones</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
> size=2>Assistant Director</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Disability
> Resources for Students</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Arizona State
> University</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>(480) 965-6045</FONT> </P>
> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
> size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Alyssa Robinson
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 23, 2001 1:45
> PM<BR><B>To:</B> Richard Jones<BR><B>Cc:</B> Access-B<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
> Adobe 5.0 and the Reader<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>
> <P><SPAN class=359583320-23042001><FONT face=Arial>I'll try to address your
> questions directly:&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>   <P><FONT face=Arial>1. Can Jaws only read a document on with Adobe
>   5.0?&nbsp;<SPAN class=359583320-23042001>&nbsp;and </SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=359583320-23042001>2</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
>   class=359583320-23042001><FONT face=Arial>. Can JAWS read a Reader 5.0 file,
>   say the file mentioned in the QuickTime presentation&nbsp; in question 5 or
>   can it only be read in Acrobat 5.0?<SPAN
>   class=359583320-23042001>&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN
>   class=359583320-23042001>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
>   <P><SPAN class=359583320-23042001><FONT face=Arial>&nbsp;<SPAN
>   class=359583320-23042001>Both Acrobat 5.0 and </SPAN>Acrobat Reader
>   5.0&nbsp;<SPAN class=359583320-23042001>are </SPAN>natively compatible with
>   screen readers such as JAWS, and no plugin is necessary for text-to-speech.
>   The file should start reading automatically when opened. However, you will
>   want to contact Freedom Scientific (the makers of JAWS), to find out if your
>   specific version of JAWS is compatible with Acrobat<SPAN
>   class=359583320-23042001> 5.0 or Acrobat</SPAN>&nbsp;Reader 5.0. Another thing
>   to keep in mind is that the PDF file must have been created with Accessibility
>   in mind, in order to be readable with a screen reader.&nbsp;<SPAN
>   class=359583320-23042001>If it has not been designed with Accessibility in
>   mind, the creator of the PDF file can use Acrobat 5.0 (the full product) and
>   the Make Accessible plugin in order to make the PDF file more accessible. This
>   link : </SPAN>&lt;http://access.adobe.com/booklet.html&gt;&nbsp;<SPAN
>   class=359583320-23042001>has more information on&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN
>   class=359583320-23042001>creating </SPAN>Accessible PDF files.<SPAN
>   class=359583320-23042001>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
>   <P><FONT face=Arial>3. Do you get more accessibility features&nbsp; in Acrobat
>   5.0 than the free Reader 5.0?&nbsp;<SPAN
>   class=359583320-23042001>&nbsp;and</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
>   class=359583320-23042001><BR><FONT face=Arial>4. Are there any differences in
>   how Acrobat 5.0 handles the accessibility of a pdf file and the way the Reader
>   5.0 handles the document?<SPAN
>   class=359583320-23042001>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
>   <P><SPAN class=359583320-23042001><FONT face=Arial>The Additional accesibility
>   features in Acrobat 5.0 relate to creating accessible PDF files. This includes
>   the ability to create Tagged PDF files and the ability to add ALT tags for
>   images. When it comes to reading Accessible PDF files, the performance of
>   Reader 5.0&nbsp;and Acrobat 5.0 is the same.</FONT></SPAN></P>
>   <P><FONT face=Arial>5. You use the QuickTime files in your&nbsp; accessibility
>   training at </FONT><A target=_blank
>   href="http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/solutionsacc.html"><FONT
>   face=Arial>http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/solutionsacc.html</FONT></A><FONT
>   face=Arial>.&nbsp; The image in the QuickTime file is of a document with the
>   name&nbsp; "Synchros" in the heading.&nbsp; The page has text, a pie chard,
>   and a table.&nbsp;&nbsp; How many bytes does accessibility add to this pdf
>   file as opposed to a 4.***&nbsp; pdf file?&nbsp; </FONT></P>
>   <P><FONT face=Arial>6. Generally, how many bytes does Adobe 5.0 accessibility
>   add to pdf file?&nbsp;<SPAN class=359583320-23042001>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></P>
>   <P><SPAN class=359583320-23042001><FONT face=Arial>A PDF file which has been
>   tagged for accessibility is definately larger than the same file without the
>   tagging. I don't know of an accurate way to measure just how much larger. This
>   could vary widely from file to file. I do not have access to the original
>   document on which the Synchros PDF file was made, so I cannot tell for certain
>   what the size difference would be between a tagged and untagged version of
>   that file.</FONT></SPAN></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
> --Boundary_(ID_BWMLSa/mDMN5UNSFlMtjZw)--

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