But what about those other disabled person's "basic
needs" such as me?
There is a reason why the theme of the United Nations
charter focusses on this very subject? I am NOT able
to leave my house often so as to hold a prestigious
position as Richard and get daily social input. I
rely on these e-mails for information. I too need to
be accommodated and informed.
Everyone should play a part in upholding our disabled
rights, but some don't. But this is probably why we
are tottering on losing ground with the ADA because
there are a few who feel too comfortable in their jobs
and don't further the cause, as they may already have
what they need and want.
We should have really gone further during the ten
years that the ADA has existed. As a matter of fact
did anyone ever realize why the majority of people
doesn't know what ADA stands for. They think ADA
means American Dental Association or American
Democratic Association, etc.
My suggesion for those who are not interested, that
any e-mail in the string of: "Law penalizes the
able?" gets promptly deleted without opening the
message.
Ruth
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--- Ron Stewart <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I would agree, but lets try to keep the info
> apolitical as much as possible.
>
> Ron Stewart
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rudy Caris [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:35 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Law penalizes the able?
>
>
> Funny you should mention that. Someone just brought
> up
> that very point and question to me before you posted
> David. Yes, information and technology coupled
> together
> on this board should count.
>
> Rudy
> .
> .
> .
> > what about information, does that count?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Jones" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: January 12, 2001 2:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: Law penalizes the able?
> >
> >
> > The name of this organization is EASI, "Equal
> Access to Software and
> > Information." I am open to any point of view
> concerning access to
> > software
> > and information. However, EASI is filling up
> each day with email
> > that has
> > nothing to do with technology or providing the
> crucial electronic
> > tools
> > necessary for individuals with disabilities to
> compete effectively in
> > the
> > 21st century. If you want to relive the past, do
> it on your own
> > time.
> >
> > Richard Jones
> > Assistant Director
> > Disability Resources for Students
> > Arizona State University, Main
> > 480-965-1234
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rudy Caris [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:05 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Law penalizes the able?
> >
> > No doubt, and I understand the point of the
> argument and
> > what is being said.
> >
> > The arena where our battles should be fought
> however,
> > has a whole new set of rules, and is not given to
> > emotional pleadings, grandstanding, or such
> things.
> >
> > I picked one fight that took seven years to
> conclude.
> > As a result, many disabled today are enjoying some
> of
> > their rights they would otherwise not have had.
> >
> > Conversely, there have been issues where I chose
> NOT to
> > rattle the cages of the powers that are.
> >
> > The sympathetic vote is a powerful ally that
> should not
> > be abused or overused as the case might be.
> >
> > Indulging in that practice only serves to
> desensitize
> > our "friends" who can help us in our battles.
> Which
> > indeed they are.
> >
> > Rudy
> > .
> > .
> > .
> > > Yes, you do have to pick your fights. Selma
> Alabama was chosen for a
> > reason
> > > I do believe, as was Montgomery. I don't want to
> get this wrong
> > though,
> > and
> > > disappoint my former professor (right Norm). On
> the other hand
> > though, you
> > > can't be so quiet as to have the other side
> nickel and dime you to
> > death.
> > > Can't wine about everything. But there does come
> a time when some
> > one can
> > > take only so much.
> > >
> > > Randy
> > >
> > > "Practice means nothing. Games mean everything."
> > > -- Thurmond Moore
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: David Poehlman <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:21 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Law penalizes the able?
> > >
> > >
> > > > yes, it makes a difference. the disabled is a
> bit different than
> > > > either of those you describe. for one thing,
> we don't have the
> > > > choices that any of them did due to functional
> limitations.
> > > >
> > > > This is the 21st century the last I looked.
> The backlash against
> > us
> > > > over stuff like this can be more detramental
> than the present
> > reality.
> > > > if you have 100 guood cases, the one bad one
> that you have will
> > wipe
> > > > all the good of them away.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Rick Sinclair" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: January 11, 2001 4:03 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Law penalizes the able?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rudy,
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand, squeaky wheels get the
> grease. Neither the
> > black
> > > > movement, nor the womens' movement, had much
> success until they
> > > > started
> > > > raising an unholy ruckus that got media
> attention. The womens'
> > > > movement
> > > > was a phenomenal result, actually changing the
> perspective of
> > > > virtually
> > > > all of society, but they had to burn their
> bras to do it. (Never
> > could
> > > > figure why that made a difference, but it
> apparently did!) When
> > we
> > > > give
> > > > an inch, we lose a mile.
> > > >
> > > > I know what you mean, and I don't really
> disagree with strategic
> > > > planning, but sometimes being "totally
> unreasonable" is what make
> > the
> > > > difference. If nothing changes, nothing
> changes.
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rudy Caris wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You are absolutely correct Rick.
> > > > >
> > > > > But let's go about asserting our rights with
> a measure
> > > > > of reason, and not stand on all of our
> rights, all of
> > > > > the time: Unless of course we are sure that
> we will win
> > > > > and advance the cause for all of us. o.k?
> > > > >
> > > > > Lost ground is harder to regain.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rudy
> > > > > .
> > > > > .
>
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