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-----Original Message-----
From: Raw Food Diet Support List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Liza May
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 5:01 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Love Conquers All
So if one is wronged, one is to fight. And those who believe in God are
called to unite.
I don't know much about any of the religions, and I know nothing about
Islam other than what you've told me here, so my next words are just me
guessing here out of total ignorance.
The two things you've described above, when taken together, justify the
idea of a Jihad. From the little I do know about Christianity, Judaism
and Buddhism, I don't recall ever hearing about the idea of a Holy War
as being a central theme to the religion. The idea that if one Muslim
(or believer in God, however "believer" or "God" is defined by whoever's
interpreting the Koran) is wronged then all Muslims (or Believers in
God) are called on to unite, and to fight, is different than other
religions, from the little I know.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anwar J Goins" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: Love Conquers All
> Sorry if I was being unclear. When one is being wronged one is to
fight.
> When one is not being wronged then peace is the order of the day. I
said
> nothing about Muslim. The passage, as just about all of the Quran,
addresses
> humanity but in
> particular the whole of the Qur'an is an advice for those who believe
in
> God and the last day. In the Qur'an there is no separation of church
and
> state but the church allows for freedom of religion and urges a
community to
> come to the aid of other oppressed communities. So the followers of
> the Qur'an would have to contract treaties and come to the aid of
> neighbors because of this treaty and religious duty. Nonetheless,
those
> separate communites as long as they are friendly are
> allowed freedom of religion and are not to be oppressed and treated
unfairly.
> I say separate communities because those who believe in God and the
last
> day are called to unite. So those who are not in this circle would not
be
> apart of this community even if they lived amidst this community. But
as
> long as any outside community promotes good and well-being and are in
> compliance with
> justice they are to be treated with excellence as everyone should. The
> Qur'an promotes exactly this. Would you like passages? This is what
I'm
> saying. I hope that was clear.
>
> Godblessm
> Anwar
>
> Liza May wrote:
> >
> > > freedom of religion is key and so is being peacable as long as one
> > > is not being wronged or fought and driven out of one's home for
the
> > > religion, order they the followers of the Qur'an are to espouse
and
> > for
> > > all who are submissive to and for God.
> >
> > I am having a little trouble understanding your sentences, in this
email
> > and the one before. I understand the first part of what's above, but
I
> > don't understand the part starting with the word "order."
> >
> > Does the first part mean that freedom and being peacable are only
key if
> > one is not being wronged?
> >
> > > Freedom to practice one's
> > > religion, order and ways of life are key to the Qur'an. When this
is
> > not
> > > upheld then one is to defend one's self and to fight until those
who
> > > threaten this freedom of order, religion and way of life is
> > non-existent
> >
> > The freedom here is freedom of who? Of the Muslim, who then is to
fight
> > until those who threaten are "non-existent" ?
> >
> > Hmmm. Is this really from the Qur'an?
> >
>
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