On 3 Jan 01, at 8:41, cleft wrote:
> Bonjour David
> I'll tried to be as clear as possible !!
> My purpose is to link my 3 computers :
> Main desktop :Duron 650 ,128 mo ram ,modemcard Numéris 64 K (ISDN),Fast
> ethernet card(10/100)
> in starting 2 possibilities with BootMagic :Windows ME or Win98 SE
Okay, you have the ISDN modem in this machine. Are you using
something (ICS? Wingate?) to try to share this connection with the
others?
> Second desktop :Celeron 400,68 Mo ram ,pci card for 100/200(compatible
> fast/ethernet 10/100).
> in starting 2 possibilities :Corel Linux or Windows ME
> Notebook Toshiba modem 56k ,PMCIA card and Win98 SE
> The card is D-link DE-660 PC card
Okay, three machines, two of which are already dual-boot.
> In normal conditions main desktop and notebook are link together with the
> correct crossover cable (modular RJ-45 at each end)
Okay, good.
> I may use indifferently modem V90 or ISDN for respectif computer (différents
> phone lines)
I think I understood that the ISDN modem was internal in the main
desktop machine. Where is the V90 modem? Does "respectif" mean that
it is an external modem that you plug into different machines as
needed?
> Actually I resolved my peculiar problem and I can use the modem ISDN and
> V90 when the cross-over cable is deconnected
Okay, I *think* that's good.
> But for my main purpose complete echec(check I think)
> I tried to install the link with a cheap 5 Ports HUb and 3 normal cable
> with RJ-45 at each end .
What happens when you try this? Do you get an error message? Does
it matter which machine you turn on first?
> I am not sure using Windows ME is the best solution what du you think? I
> have got the Windows 2000 Pro cd but I am a bit afraid to start !!
Well, now that we know the cables are right, the next step would be
to look at the network configurations on each machine.
I have an impression that Microsoft's idea of their target market
for Win ME is people who would be scared and confused if they saw the
network configuration information. Nevertheless, you can probably
get at least the TCP/IP portion by running "ipconfig /all" (or the
French equivalent); you can pipe the output to a text file to capture
it and print or mail it.
I'm not sure if there's an easy way to capture the network
bindings, but it would be useful to look at those to see if you have
protocols besides TCP/IP installed.
> I have a lot of work to get the meaning of "carrier pigeon" at last I found
> it in a US.Army english-french dictionnary edited in 38/39(1900 of course)I
> don't think they still using that kind of transmission in the french army
> but I am not sure
I'm sorry if you didn't realize that this was a joke. Although
there is an Internet standard (RFC) for TCP using messenger birds, I
believe the actual "carrier pigeon" species was hunted to extinction
before I was born.
In this case, it stood for "something other possibility that I
can't guess". And in fact, it hadn't occurred to me that you'd be
using ISDN -- it's a much more common option in EUrope than here in
California.
> Hope to have tips soon
> Have a good day and Happy New Year
> Victor Gobert
> --- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Gillett" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Fast ethernet adaptor
>
>
> > On 30 Dec 00, at 11:22, Victor Gobert wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry for my english
> >
> > I'll try to figure it out as we go.
> >
> > > In normal use
> > > desktop with Duron 650 ,128 Ma ram
> > > notebook Toshiba
> > > desktop and notebook are linked together and works alright
> > > If i disconnect the cable from the desktop(Fast ethernet adaptor )
> >
> > Okay, you have two computers, linked by some kind of cable.
> >
> > --- ---
> > | A |---| B |
> > --- ---
> >
> > One of the computers has a Fast Ethernet (100-BaseTX, presumably)
> > adapter in it. For now, I'll assume that this adapter is where the
> > cable joining the machines plugs in.
> > So this cable should have RJ-45 modular plugs on each end, and to
> > provide a working connection between the machines, it should be a
> > "cross-over" cable. When you hold up the two ends together, the
> > pattern of coloured wires inside the clear plastic connector is not
> > the same at both ends. (It would be the same on a "normal" cable.)
> > Hopefully, this is a "Category 5 UTP" cable, containing 4 pairs (8
> > total) wires -- there are other possibilities, but I don't recommend
> > them.
> >
> > > If i disconnect the cable from the desktop(Fast ethernet adaptor )I have
> no
> > > more contact with my internet provider ,my modem is not rocognised
> >
> > Internet provider? Modem?
> > These are not in the picture above. We need a bunch more
> > information about what "works alright" means. What kind of modem do
> > you use, and how/where is it connected? Do you use it to connect to
> > your ISP, or something else (cable, DSL, carrier pigeon)?
> >
> > > When i put it back and disconnect the cable from the notebook(PMCIA
> card)
> > > everything comes back to normal
> >
> > "everything comes back to normal"? Does "normal" include your
> > machines being able to communicate with each other? Do they have
> > some other way of doing that without this cable?
> > You've specified a PCMCIA card. Is this an Ethernet-only card, or
> > and Ethernet-and-modem combo card? Is it a PCMCIA card, or is it
> > really a PC-Card card? [PCMCIA cards fit into PC-Card slots, but
> > don't have the bandwidth to do Fast Ethernet and so only do 10-BaseT
> > Ethernet.]
> >
> > > I tried to connect a second desktop with a 4 Hub and i have the
> > > same problem
> >
> >
> > --- ----- ---
> > | A |---| hub |---| B |
> > --- ----- ---
> > |
> > ---
> > | C |
> > ---
> >
> > Note that this setup calls for three "normal" network cables. The
> > cross-over cable you have been using will not work as a substitute
> > for any of them.
> > That *may* explain why you were unable to get this to work, but
> > doesn't solve the original problem which I still don't understand.
> >
> > > I need help
> > > Thanks from a frenchman
> >
> > Please supply more information, and/or correct anywhere where I've
> > misunderstood what you meant.
> >
> > David G
> >
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> > Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]>
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