see if you can understand this about anarchists:

very naive and discontented people think that it is possible to return
to non-hierarchical governments, non-hierarchical businesses,
non-hierarchical organizations generally.  these people call themselves
anarchists.

chomsky eloquently states that a government must justify itself, but he
is not practical enough to describe precisely how this government would
operate.  nor does he describe the steps that are needed to get from the
present state of affairs to the anarchist ideal.

i read his books avidly, but just to get another view of U.S. foreign
policy.  i can't take him and the other libertarian-socialists
(anarchists) seriously when they talk vaguely about some anarchist
utopian society.  most of the time here they spend playing "ain't it
awful", but have no useful information to provide on "what's to be
done".  their utility to society is to support each other's verbiage to
maintain their sanities in a world run under
republican-plutocratic-capitalism.

norm

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Jonathan Julius Dobkin wrote:
>
> Does this (or any of your other messages) actually mean anything? If
> not, why waste our time? If so, why not write in English (or French,
> Spanish, Portuguese, or something else coherent that I might have at
> least a chance of understanding)?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sueko Sakai <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tuesday, January 9, 2001 8:32 pm
> Subject: Re: [CHOMSKY] is this correct or not?
>
> > On Sun, 31 Dec 2000, Ratibor Trivunac wrote:
> >
> > > > is chomsky really advocating for anarchism? or for the >anarchist?
> > >
> > > For both =:)
> > >
> > > > i'm thinking that he's for the anarchist.  and i'm also saying
> > to myself
> > > > that in every age anarchists are needed, for if not, the king
> > would still
> > > > be in his counting room counting the profits from our parents'
> > "blood &
> > > > sweat."  of course, today it's the capitalist who is in the
> > counting room.
> > >
> > > Chomsky is alllso member of revoloutionary-syndicate called IWW
> > > (www.iww.org) which is advocating for destruction of state and
> > capitalist> system=anarchy...
> > >
> > > > saka'i
> > >
> > > Rata
> >
> > ok, and sorry for responding so late...i had to think a bit on it.
> > so
> > it's about socialism/communism?  my problem is that our social-
> > economicsystem is a big one, and i rather doubt that anarchism is
> > a form of
> > organiation that the mass majority fear--out of ignorance.  but of
> > course,isn't chomsky thinking more along the line of: we begin at
> > the community
> > level, then work our way towards the state.
> >
> > if confucius had the patience to do what needed to be done to recover
> > social order in his time, i guess his way of doing it is a clue
> > for our
> > time? (26 yrs. after his death, confucianism).
> >
> > call me keiko
> > i'm spiritually evolving....
> >