arjen:
> I am done with your rantings Kirt.

Fair enough.

> As long as you are
> not able to provide me with mistakes in my
> argumentation I have followed here, I am simply going
> to ignore you.

I did, but you are unwilling or unable to reply. Suit yourself.

> You keep on babling nonsense about that
> one topic about age at death in prehistoric humans,

It was your nonsense, which you will not deal with--as in you were
illogical/absurd and you won't admit it.

> while I have given you many reasons why the assumption
> that meat eating causes rapid brain growth is absurd,

You have not given any such reasons. You say there may be other selective
pressures, don't identify what other pressures these may be, ignore much of
the research supporting the relevence of the documented change in diet (more
animal foods) that may have enabled your unspecified selective pressures to
result in increased brain size--in no way have you shown anything absurd,
excepting many of your "arguments".

> even if I am a little off with the numbers I gave you.

If? It is _impossible_ for you to say you blew it?

> I am also not going to waste my time on providing
> references for you, since that will take some time and
> you will ignore what it has to say anyway when it
> opposes your views.

Absolutely NO SURPRISE there.

You appear to do what you are accusing me doing of in the largely
hypothetical future (since you are not gonna find any real modern references
that support raw veganism as the human diet sculpted by evolution), with the
hundreds of references on BV. How many have you dug up in order to challenge
your "philosophies"?

> For your information though: I
> finished my MS degree in evolutionary biology with
> marks that exceeded the minimum requirements for Cum
> laude, so I am well informed about the principles of
> evolution.

You have not shown that here. Perhaps you can provide the details of your
degree and we can then verify your expert status? Your musings on
reproductive success and how anyone older than childbearing age is useless
to human reproduction and success show that you haven't even scratched the
surface of evolutionary biology. Or if you have, you have remain completely
ignorant of evolutionary psychology, which would be pretty hard for a Cum
Laude MS evolutionary biologist to be ignorant of--depending on the issuing
university, of course. But if you are going to bring your expert status up,
expect some questions about it and/or verification, so us layman can be
properly informed about how much rigor we should expect. If it turns out
that you are legit, I would hold you to a much higher standard than I have
so far, but being such an informed academic as you claim to be I'm sure you
will welcome such rigor. ;) My contempt for you would increase, but I would
play the academic game with you here without the "scathing" barbs. The worst
that will happen is that you will actually try to find some scientific
support for your "philosophies", realize after an exhaustive and increasing
frantic search that there is none, be humbled, and fess up to more
subjective reasons for your belief in raw veganism. Sounds kinda tiresome to
you, I imagine, compared to continuing with the charade you are now engaged
in...

> And have you ever noticed that
> paleonthology and anthropology are sciences that are
> barely able to come up with hard facts and that a lot
> of scientist start speculating instead of presenting
> facts (like Beyond Veg, although I wouldn't consider
> them scientists anyway)?

They are not. And if you aren't stretching the available information to suit
your purposes then I'm a monkey's uncle, or should I say distant offspring
eating a raw vegan diet? ;) If your information on lifespans is any
indication, you are a very poor evolutionary biologist.

> I have always admitted to
> speculating, but that doesn't mean that I can't defend
> my arguments logically, even when some people refuse
> to admit that.

You accuse folks who reference their arguments of pure speculation, while
you refuse to support your own myopic contentions with even an example of a
reference. After all, that would take a lot of time and energy. Much easier
to take pot shots at BV whose contributors (all but me interestingly) have
done their homework and share it with anyone interested as a labor of love.

If you want to find out about heroin, I suggest you talk to an ex-junkie. If
you want to find out about raw vegan foodism, I suggest you spend some more
time on beyondveg.

> So bye Kirt, I will regard you as non-existent, until
> you come up with something else than rantings.

Bye. But I won't go away just because you are unable or unwilling to back up
your conjectures with anything but irrelevant musings of your own design...

Cheers,
Kirt