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Andrej Grubacic <[log in to unmask]>
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The philosophy, work & influences of Noam Chomsky
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Ha, ha, it seems that I have succesfully annoyed our pet fascist here on the
list!
When a new age fascist of Tracy Killbaby type calls you a "fool" it is a
compliment. Why? because
It prooves that this person is :
1.incapable for a civilized dialogue, so I suggest that you transfer
yourself from the roach motel to some other list and finally accept that
Noam Chomsky IS A SOCIALIST and that this is a reason why there are so many
leftist like me who enjoy his brilliant critics of US Empire and of
authoritarian regimes and States all over the world.
2. that our pet nazi doesnt have arguments; examine this Tracy's quote which
shed some lucrative light on ethical constitution and ideal type of a new
age fascist:
>I do. I suggest you do the same about yours. Why not start by admitting
>(what's left of) your country is a charnel house?

If we put aside this genocidal and sick remark ( "what's left of"..
rejoicing in other people tragedies is a typical feature of new age fascists
and quasi totalitarian fundamentalism of political corectness ideology made
in USA; this statement is a statement of a seriously deranged person...Even
after bombing and occupation of Balkans I cannot see myself think "glad I am
glad
because some American is kelled..."; this is sick; or better, this is a
great example of new age american fascism and attitude of Empire's willing
executioners... ), if we put this aside, we have here to examine my sentance
to which this
is an answer:

>Anyhow, I suggest to Killbaby and Issihodos and all the others agents
>provocateur here on the list, who are living in America, to follow the
>example of Noam Chomsky and critisize their country and it's genocidal
>imerial policy as well as it's discriminatory class- war politics inside of
>your country.
 >Follow the example of independent, grass roots organizations in Belgrade
>who are organizing today , on eight of march, feminist marches and
protestes
>against State violence conducted by Milosevic goverment. And expressing
>their solidarity with Chech students who went to jail for two years because
>of shouting "Death to American Imperialism".

So, it is said here that I oppose Milosevic goverment, furthermore that I
participate in actions against it which are rather dangerous nowdays,
because
Milosevic is a tyrant, perhaps not so bloodthirsty as Clinton, but still a
tyrant. So, this is the problem Tracy Killbaby cannot solve, except with
intelligent but
new age nazi tricky attempts: he has "a discussion" with Serbian who is an
anarchist, anti Milosevic, anti statist, and before anything else, leftist
and antimperialist.....
So, my dear Killbaby, I dont see a point anymore of connecting me with
Milosevic y su
banda if I hate him more than you do, and believe me this is so...I live
under his bloody boot. And I fight against him. Unlike you who are attacking
whoever mention something bad ( and true) about new age fascist Empire you
are a soldier of.
So, you are twisting facts, you are furious, which is understandable,
because you cannot find adequate  counter argument against a Serbian leftist
and anti imperialist who condemns Milosevic in the same extent he hates
Clinton.
So, no valid arguments, just invalid conscusness of a new age american
fascist.
And , in fine, after all this compromitation of our pet nazi, we can
discover the following:

3.>Your point being what? That if you are a socialist, you are obliged to
utter
>inbecilic remarks like the spurious Einstein quote? That would go a long
way
>towards explaining the rhetoric of some on this list. But I prefer to think
>someone just decided to "improve" Einstein and figured--astutely--that
there
>would be fools like Andrej who would swallow it uncritically.

Here we have a Tracy Killbaby who is, either because of ignorance or because
imperial contempt of the facts, denying that Einstein was a socialist....So
we have here a lie.


>The Swiss, profiteers in Nazi genocide? Nice example to contrast with the
>US.

Here we have an argument on the level of four year old child which would
certainly make famous Swiss Jean Piaget re examine his theory of
developement of intelligence....
However, because Tracy isn't, unfortunately , uninteligent, we are facing
again paradigmatical despair before the facts of a new age fascist.

>Because it's the rhetoric of a moron, and Einstein was not a moron.

Of course he wasn't. But he was obviously cursed like Leonardo who said, as
you perhaps know, that "I am afraid that my knowlegde will create many
ignorants".....
I think that Albert Enstein, outstanding scientist, humanist and SOCIALIST
is probably rolling in his grave, listening to ignorant interpretations of
his thought made by new age fascists.
I am sorry, my dear Killbaby, but I have succededd in provoking your
imperial and po-mo fascist temperament: your argumentation is laughable as I
have prooved, your vocabulary and name calling are derivates of best
tradition of european imperialism which American State and it's willing
executioners are astutely continuing and your four angry succesive mails had
confirmed that you are
a person without any ethical constituency and intelectual integrity. A moral
freak. A new age fascist. And you dont have any argument to counterpose this
diagnosis, except insults. Good bye.
I dont feel sorry for you, I am not a christian, but I feel sorry that
people like you exist at all. On the other hand, one of the purposes of this
list is exactly fighting against people like you.
                                  Andrej Grubacic
              Belgrade Libertarian Group, Anarchist Federation of
Montenegro,People`s Liberation Front of Korcula,People`s Front of Block 21


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