Ms Trecy, do you know the meaning of 'ad hominem' ?  Your response below
is a classic example; and as to predictable, many on this list feel
that your responses are predictably right wing.
wcm
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> on 3/22/00 3:17 PM, Andrej Grubacic at [log in to unmask] wrote:
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> > No US citizen, and no US organisation, has any right to impose US values on
> > Europe. No concentration camps or mass graves
> > can justify that imposition.
> So you admit that HRW's factual findings are accurate, you just think
> systematic rape as an officially sanctioned Balkan practice is a cultural
> value that we benighted Westerners have no right to criticize. How quaint.
>
> You are nothing else if not predictable, Andrej. Given a range of responses
> to a given argument, you can be counted on to take the least rational and
> the most laughable. For instance, I thought it barely possible you would
> notice that HRW CONTRADICTED NATO on its Kosovo war claims that the Serbs
> ran actual "rape camps". Now that you have predictably discounted its report
> as a propaganda exercise of these same powers, you are in no position to
> make that argument, which would at least have the merit of playing by the
> rules of post-Englightenment logic.
>
> You know, your presence on this list is very valuable. You perform a
> function much like Anthony Lewis and other left-liberal journalists do in
> Chomsky's media critiques; that is, by defining the outer boundaries of
> permissible dissent in your culture (taking you at your word to be a left
> activist, Serb style), you give those of us unable to visit the abbattoir
> known as Greater Serbia a very good idea of just how racist and chauvinist
> your society's core values are. And that goes a long way to helping explain
> how citizens in a society such as yours can do such horrific things each
> other.
>
>
> --
> Tresy Kilbourne
> Seattle, WA
>